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  1. Bluberry Bat

    banlist discussion

    That... is highly irrelevant. It can do everything it needs to. Rest with none of the drawbacks of rest is OP, status immunity is OP. If it runs TG / RD / Rest / Surf there are 4 Pokémon in total that rightfully counter it and they're easy enough to deal with otherwise, and Trick counters...
  2. Bluberry Bat

    banlist discussion

    Manaphy has veritable status immunity and an on-demand full heal with Hydrate. This especially combined with Tail Glow and the classic 100-all stat spread pretty much mean its never coming out of Ubers. The only thing it really has a problem with is coverage, but a Rain Dance / Rest / Surf / Ice...
  3. Bluberry Bat

    banlist discussion

    Eh, fair enough.. I'm always up for experiments, it's just in my experience, I've seen what feels like hundreds of them done that always comes to the same conclusion, Chomp just becomes disproportional once it's unbanned. As for Skizzur, it's pretty absurd (and I must admit I hate the thing)...
  4. Bluberry Bat

    banlist discussion

    ...The harm with letting Chomp in is even in a less serious ring it's an easy button to anyone who knows what they're doing. Now, a -TRUE- counter is able to switch into their target semi-continuously, since switching is involved, but Glaceon half-qualifies to be able to go into it once... if...
  5. Bluberry Bat

    banlist discussion

    Starmie can -revenge kill- Chomp if you've killed its Yache, which once again equates to requiring two counters. Will Starmie win in a one-vs-one? Yes, its faster, and can reasonably survive an Earthquake and deal two hits. But Garchomp is never a one-vs-one. Its a mid-to-lategame-sweeper on...
  6. Bluberry Bat

    banlist discussion

    A 'Counter' is described as a Pokémon that can -safely- switch into what it's meant to.. well, counter. Weavile cannot switch into anything except a Swords Dance and since anyone in their right minds is going to run 'Chomp without a Yache if they plan on using Swords Dance, it has no OHKO...
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